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Alpha-Editable Dress Top - UPDATED Sept. 24, 2006

by HystericalParoxysm Posted 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:59 AM - Updated 23rd Jul 2009 at 1:09 AM by HystericalParoxysm
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This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
Updated Sept. 24, 2006! Please redownload mesh!: At Renatus Valentinus's suggestion, I have changed the fat morph on the mesh to make it work with a much wider range of outfits. Please redownload the mesh file - the mesh filename is the same so if you copy it to the same place you can just overwrite the previous file. Please make sure you overwrite or remove the original mesh file.

After trying several alternate methods, it appears I've come up with a solution to the crashing dress tops dillemma - and in doing so, made alpha-editable ones! Huzzah!

This mesh is shaped the same as the OfB dress top outfit with the baggy pants (as I always liked it) and as you can see in the Burgundy Foliate recolour, you can make it look pretty much exactly like the OfB top. It can be worn with any bottoms, but works best with ones with a very close-fitting waistline. Other meshes will clip slightly through the waist, especially when sitting or twisting. This is unavoidable due to the geometry of the mesh - if I corrected for it any more it wouldn't retain the same shape as the original OfB top, which is what I wanted. Just wear a close-fitting garment for bottoms.

As a side-effect of how the mesh was created to make it a dress top, the bottom is fully alpha-editable. As it is shaped like the OfB dress top, it does have a lower limit and a bit of a ruffle at the very bottom (as well as an optional "modesty cap" covering the bottom hole, since that was a feature of the original), but as you can see from my recolours, you can get pretty versatile with it.

To recolour, simply use the same alpha and texture for all three sets of textures/alphas. Unfortunately it will duplicate all the textures despite them being the same: you can fix this by deleting the alpha5 and alpha7 images from the recolour file, then copying the value under "stdMatBaseTextureName" from the material definition for the top into the same spot in the alpha5 and alpha7 material definitions. Not absolutely necessary, but makes for much smaller recolour files.

I have tested a couple of the things that were a problem with the other dress tops, namely buying a community lot and getting a job, and there are no crashes or other issues with that. However, as I do not play much, other problems may arise (though I don't expect so as these are essentially a straight clone from Maxis original), therefore I am considering these in testing for the moment. I did get some weird blurring of thumbnails and textures happening while I was testing, but further testing did not repeat it (and it has been alpha tested by someone other than me), so I believe it was due to something else... If you do somehow get the blurring too, I did fix it in my game and can tell you how to do so. Please let me know if you get any issues!

The poly count is a bit on the high side for just a top, 1776 polys, 1205 vertices. This is due to the double-sidedness for the alpha-editability, but it's not -incredibly- high.

It does include a fat morph, but not pregnant (as maternity wear is full-body).

I have put up each of the recolours separately, or in a 4-pack if you want all of them: whichever way you get them, make sure you download the mesh, which I've uploaded separately (filename starts with CMESH)!!

Thanks to:
  • Tiggerypum, for being a great source of info and ideas into how to fix the dress top dillema.
  • Wes_h, for the Unimesh plugins for Milkshape, used in the creation of this mesh.
  • Dr Pixel, for all kinds of various bits of useful meshing info that have helped me along the way.
  • Everyone who has contributed to the creation and development of SimPE.
  • The Inspiration Gallery, for the texture used on the burgundy foliate recolour.
  • Flyingpigeon, for the original dress top idea, and for making me a nice feather pillow with his last molting.
  • MTS2, the rest of the staff, and Delphy, for creating a such a fantastic place to learn and share information, so I could figure out how to do cool stuff like this.
Tags: #dress, #top, #alpha

Age: Adult
Gender: Female
Clothing Type: Everyday
Clothing Style: No Style Modern
Other Type: Not Applicable
Maxis Flags: Not Applicable
Outfit Type: Top

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
Filename - Tip: You can click the magnifying glass to see the archive contents Size Downloads Date
CMESH_AFDressTop_v2.rar

Size: 90.5 KB · Downloads: 122,954 · 25th Sep 2006
90.5 KB 122,954 25th Sep 2006
LolitaGothPlaidandLace.rar

Size: 105.3 KB · Downloads: 46,550 · 3rd Sep 2006
105.3 KB 46,550 3rd Sep 2006
DarkBlueLongSleeveCrossover.rar

Size: 138.0 KB · Downloads: 39,692 · 3rd Sep 2006
138.0 KB 39,692 3rd Sep 2006
BurgundyFoliate.rar

Size: 342.3 KB · Downloads: 38,708 · 3rd Sep 2006
342.3 KB 38,708 3rd Sep 2006
BlackCamisole.rar

Size: 348.8 KB · Downloads: 44,618 · 3rd Sep 2006
348.8 KB 44,618 3rd Sep 2006
All4Recolours.rar

Size: 934.2 KB · Downloads: 69,797 · 3rd Sep 2006
934.2 KB 69,797 3rd Sep 2006
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1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
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Lab Assistant
#76 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 2:49 PM
This mesh is so amazing and so useful! Thank you!

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Test Subject
#77 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 7:24 PM
these look amazing in game, i am so happy you made this mesh because the other doesn't work in my game(though i've got basegame installed), so many thanks and brillant job! :3
Lab Assistant
#78 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 9:08 PM
Mny many thanks.This is exactly the sort of dress top I've been looking for.
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Forum Resident
#79 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 1:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by crizzlepizzle
these look amazing in game, i am so happy you made this mesh because the other doesn't work in my game(though i've got basegame installed), so many thanks and brillant job! :3

Yeah, the previous dress-tops (by yours truly) are screwed up in many ways... so just ignore them if they don't work, try the new ones here out and drop a thank-you for hp :D.
Test Subject
#80 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 4:07 AM
Thank you so much, I really love these.
Instructor
#81 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 4:40 AM
OH. EM. GEE.
You have a gothic lolita version -and- it is alpha editable. I will be testing this. Alot. xD
Test Subject
#82 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 10:24 AM
This rocks i love this mesh i have been looking for a dress top thats alpha... thankiees well i see all yours hairs on the sim models are donate but i still want to know where you got the aair mesh with the sim with blue top and orange hair where did you get the orange hair mesh?

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Original Poster
#83 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 10:29 AM
wazza, that's a Rose hair. All the hair shown is by Peggy or Rose, and pay.

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Test Subject
#84 Old 6th Sep 2006 at 12:38 PM
Kk thankiees i am a mermber of peggy..... but i cant get rose hair to cheep on credit card thanks anyways

I need to get Affiliated! :)
Field Researcher
#85 Old 10th Sep 2006 at 11:38 PM
I can't wait to play with this one!
Lab Assistant
#86 Old 11th Sep 2006 at 10:57 AM
I've been frantically recolouring :D

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Lab Assistant
#87 Old 12th Sep 2006 at 11:58 PM
I noticed that the fat morph is a little odd - the mesh itself is fine, but it hugs so close to the body on a fat sim that the meshes of any pants or skirts poke out through it in a major way. D'oh. I have a feeling anything using the body mesh, like tights, would work fine (haven't had a chance to try it), but I haven't found anything else in the game that doesn't protrude. Bummer that, but the top is still worth using.
Forum Resident
#88 Old 13th Sep 2006 at 11:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Renatus Valentinus
I noticed that the fat morph is a little odd - the mesh itself is fine, but it hugs so close to the body on a fat sim that the meshes of any pants or skirts poke out through it in a major way. D'oh. I have a feeling anything using the body mesh, like tights, would work fine (haven't had a chance to try it), but I haven't found anything else in the game that doesn't protrude. Bummer that, but the top is still worth using.


I answer that:
"This mesh is shaped the same as the OfB dress top outfit with the baggy pants (as I always liked it) and as you can see in the Burgundy Foliate recolour, you can make it look pretty much exactly like the OfB top. It can be worn with any bottoms, but works best with ones with a very close-fitting waistline. Other meshes will clip slightly through the waist, especially when sitting or twisting. This is unavoidable due to the geometry of the mesh - if I corrected for it any more it wouldn't retain the same shape as the original OfB top, which is what I wanted. Just wear a close-fitting garment for bottoms."

Anyway, I'm working up a couple meshes that are the same shape as my originals (based of this, with special permission).
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Original Poster
#89 Old 14th Sep 2006 at 5:57 AM
Renatus - Yes, the fat mesh is a little clippier than the "normal". Perhaps a little closer than I'd have liked. It does still work okay with some bottoms - skintight tights seem to work okay, as well as the one OfB "riding pants" mesh. But yeah, as flyingpigeon said above, he's working on more dress tops, and his tend to fit a little further away from the body. Probably better if you tend to have Maxis fat sims.

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Lab Assistant
#90 Old 14th Sep 2006 at 12:23 PM Last edited by Renatus Valentinus : 14th Sep 2006 at 12:25 PM. Reason: Stupid spelling error.
I was aware that some things simply would stick through due to the close fittingness of the mesh - it's just that *everything* bulges through quite noticably on a fat sim, even tights. I guess like in real life the fat chicks will have to wear different clothes because some don't 'fit'. It's a little more realism than I wanted, but... *L* No worries, I'm happy to wait to dress them in whatever Flyingpigeon comes up with.

I do understand why this happens - the OFB mesh is a little different in shape than the fat morphs of just the bottom. It's still a great mesh, I just wanted people to be aware of why their top would suddenly look funny if their sim ate too much turkey or something.
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Original Poster
#91 Old 25th Sep 2006 at 8:52 AM
Okey, well, I went ahead and updated the fat morph so it's much more versatile. I'm not sure I like how far it hangs away from the body, and it still won't work with some stuff, but it works with about as wide a range as the normal, maybe a couple more with certain outfits.

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Test Subject
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14th Oct 2006 at 2:27 PM
Awesome
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Test Subject
#92 Old 21st Oct 2006 at 5:06 PM
beautiful outfit - just love the little red headed sim, hope you get around, to realising her soon..
Lab Assistant
#93 Old 23rd Oct 2006 at 10:39 AM
Thanks so much for this. I wish all the sims clothes were alpha editable!

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Lab Assistant
#94 Old 23rd Oct 2006 at 11:08 PM
Nice work, awesome thanks you.
Lab Assistant
#95 Old 24th Oct 2006 at 3:06 AM
Glad to see the update. I like what I can do with this top so I'm happy I can use it similarly on fat sims too, now.
Lab Assistant
#96 Old 24th Oct 2006 at 11:22 AM
I really love these--they are so versatile! There is a serious lack of longer tops in the game.
Mad Poster
#97 Old 27th Oct 2006 at 10:41 PM
Yahhhh! I can bring my dresstops back on my simmies. Thanks for this mesh. You are the greatest!! I wish I could do this, but what the heck, I have you all who are amazing on this site. Thank you for sharing with us. Love Ya! (smooches)

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Lab Assistant
#98 Old 3rd Nov 2006 at 11:13 AM
I was wondering if it would be possible for this to have a bumpmap.. I love those bumpmaps- gives the clothes so much texture.

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