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Alpha-Editable Dress Top - UPDATED Sept. 24, 2006

by HystericalParoxysm Posted 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:59 AM - Updated 23rd Jul 2009 at 1:09 AM by HystericalParoxysm
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This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
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Updated Sept. 24, 2006! Please redownload mesh!: At Renatus Valentinus's suggestion, I have changed the fat morph on the mesh to make it work with a much wider range of outfits. Please redownload the mesh file - the mesh filename is the same so if you copy it to the same place you can just overwrite the previous file. Please make sure you overwrite or remove the original mesh file.

After trying several alternate methods, it appears I've come up with a solution to the crashing dress tops dillemma - and in doing so, made alpha-editable ones! Huzzah!

This mesh is shaped the same as the OfB dress top outfit with the baggy pants (as I always liked it) and as you can see in the Burgundy Foliate recolour, you can make it look pretty much exactly like the OfB top. It can be worn with any bottoms, but works best with ones with a very close-fitting waistline. Other meshes will clip slightly through the waist, especially when sitting or twisting. This is unavoidable due to the geometry of the mesh - if I corrected for it any more it wouldn't retain the same shape as the original OfB top, which is what I wanted. Just wear a close-fitting garment for bottoms.

As a side-effect of how the mesh was created to make it a dress top, the bottom is fully alpha-editable. As it is shaped like the OfB dress top, it does have a lower limit and a bit of a ruffle at the very bottom (as well as an optional "modesty cap" covering the bottom hole, since that was a feature of the original), but as you can see from my recolours, you can get pretty versatile with it.

To recolour, simply use the same alpha and texture for all three sets of textures/alphas. Unfortunately it will duplicate all the textures despite them being the same: you can fix this by deleting the alpha5 and alpha7 images from the recolour file, then copying the value under "stdMatBaseTextureName" from the material definition for the top into the same spot in the alpha5 and alpha7 material definitions. Not absolutely necessary, but makes for much smaller recolour files.

I have tested a couple of the things that were a problem with the other dress tops, namely buying a community lot and getting a job, and there are no crashes or other issues with that. However, as I do not play much, other problems may arise (though I don't expect so as these are essentially a straight clone from Maxis original), therefore I am considering these in testing for the moment. I did get some weird blurring of thumbnails and textures happening while I was testing, but further testing did not repeat it (and it has been alpha tested by someone other than me), so I believe it was due to something else... If you do somehow get the blurring too, I did fix it in my game and can tell you how to do so. Please let me know if you get any issues!

The poly count is a bit on the high side for just a top, 1776 polys, 1205 vertices. This is due to the double-sidedness for the alpha-editability, but it's not -incredibly- high.

It does include a fat morph, but not pregnant (as maternity wear is full-body).

I have put up each of the recolours separately, or in a 4-pack if you want all of them: whichever way you get them, make sure you download the mesh, which I've uploaded separately (filename starts with CMESH)!!

Thanks to:
  • Tiggerypum, for being a great source of info and ideas into how to fix the dress top dillema.
  • Wes_h, for the Unimesh plugins for Milkshape, used in the creation of this mesh.
  • Dr Pixel, for all kinds of various bits of useful meshing info that have helped me along the way.
  • Everyone who has contributed to the creation and development of SimPE.
  • The Inspiration Gallery, for the texture used on the burgundy foliate recolour.
  • Flyingpigeon, for the original dress top idea, and for making me a nice feather pillow with his last molting.
  • MTS2, the rest of the staff, and Delphy, for creating a such a fantastic place to learn and share information, so I could figure out how to do cool stuff like this.
Tags: #dress, #top, #alpha

Age: Adult
Gender: Female
Clothing Type: Everyday
Clothing Style: No Style Modern
Other Type: Not Applicable
Maxis Flags: Not Applicable
Outfit Type: Top

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
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  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
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#26 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 1:34 PM
Navetsea - The UV map for the actual "top" group (main torso) does not extend below the Maxis waist, and everything that -does- extend below the Maxis waist is on an alpha group. That's the whole beauty of the dress top concept, and the reason they were created (using a different method that made crashes happen because of Maxis weirdness) in the first place, to try to overcome that limitation of combining and allow you to create a longer top without that issue.

The bottom texture will override the top the way I have it, unless the alpha for the "top" group comes down really low on the top and the bottom you're using is mostly blocked out using its alpha... i.e. if you use really short shorts like the ones I have in the pics with the black camisole in combination with this top at its full length (like the burgundy one) you may get a bit of a pattern on the upper legs, but most combinations of tops and bottoms should work fine, beyond the clipping you may get if the bottom you're using has a thick waistband or other strange protuberances. Any normal pants or skirts will work fine - and if you had plans to use a long top with very short shorts you could just use a different, shorter alpha for the "top" layer and that wouldn't happen, I do believe.

The crashes caused by the previous dress tops weren't really all that humorous - flyingpigeon came up with a (we thought) rather ingenious method for creating them, but unfortunately, his quick and simple method would cause the game to crash entirely when buying a community lot, getting a job, or any other event that caused a yes/no dialogue for the sim wearing the dress top. Still useful for pics and stories, but not so good for day-to-day play. Hopefully there're no major issues with this method, and he can update his soon.

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#27 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 1:52 PM
Ohh the possibilities...just what I needed! Thanks!

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Forum Resident
#28 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 2:00 PM
Awesome! This is some faboo work!

Thanx ~ Syn


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Test Subject
#29 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 2:13 PM
That model sim is beautiful. Is there by any chance you'll be realeasing it?
Test Subject
#30 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 2:24 PM
I love this definitely downloading it!

Question: Where can i get the hair?
Test Subject
#31 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 2:57 PM
Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank You Thank YOU THANK YOU It's awesoooooome Great Work!!! :D
Forum Resident
#32 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 3:16 PM
Dangit, hp... you blew my dress tops out of the water. Wow... thank you so much. They look great. Thanks a TON for fixing them (and making them alpha-editable)! I owe you... thank you!! You are the best... I'll recolor for sure. Thanks again!
Lab Assistant
#33 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 3:45 PM
Awesome!! Thanks, HystericalParoxysm!

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#34 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 4:24 PM
I love your work and these tops are very classic looking, I like them all. Thank you so much for all the creations that you've shared.
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#35 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 5:08 PM
I am so glad there are longer tops like this again! Thank you! I know you've put a lot of testing and work into this so *huge* thank you's for that. That they look gorgeous is just the cherry on top!

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#36 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 5:15 PM
SimmyLover - I keep meaning to release my model sims and never get around to it. I certainly don't mind sharing (and she's one of my few sims that breeds halfway decently). I'll try to do so soonishly.

xcom - The hair is pay, by Peggy and Rose. Makeup is all by RenSim, Barcelonista, or Helaene, skin by SimCribbling, jean shorts and black bottoms by Maxis (base game and OfB, respectively) and the jeans shown with the blue and burgundy tops are by SIMply Elau. I'm lazy on model credits lately. :P

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3rd Sep 2006 at 5:16 PM
This message has been deleted by HystericalParoxysm. Reason: Stupid double-posts...
Lab Assistant
#37 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 5:16 PM
Originally Posted by HystericalParoxysm
Edit: In answer to Strangel below (since I don't tend to like posting repeatedly to my own threads, hehe), no, you don't need OfB - I used the shape of the OfB dress top, but this is cloned from a Nightlife mesh, then adjusted so you shouldn't need any EPs for it at all. I don't think I've had a base game test on it yet, but the method I used should have made it base game compatible. Please let me know if you have any trouble with it in your configuration.

WOOT! We have Nightlife on here, that's where we stopped on loading this computer for now. lol
If I open sims and this is working, know that someone, somewhere is getting thank you kisses for snatching up *exactly* what the wife was looking for. LOL Seriously, can't thank you enough. We've been in and out of forums, nothing looked as grand and detail oriented as this.

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#38 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 5:19 PM
Hi HP, I like this mesh as well as the previous one. I heard of crashing problems but - lucky me - I didn't experience that even if most of my sim-ladies wear those clothes. It has been kind and professional your work around for finding a solution and/or a new mesh, we all here appreciate this. I'm downloading just now this new gift. Thank you forever, Kiss and ciao.
3rd Sep 2006 at 5:19 PM
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Test Subject
#39 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 5:53 PM
Wow. I'm happy that the dress tops glitch is finally fixed. Now my female sims don't have to worry about their tummys showing. Thanks a lot. :3
Forum Resident
#40 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:28 PM
This is great.


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Lab Assistant
#41 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:31 PM
Mmm. Alpha editable. *eats*
Test Subject
#42 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:37 PM
These are beautiful - Good work!


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Lab Assistant
#43 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:40 PM
"so you shouldn't need any EPs for it at all."

Oh, fantastic!
I'm always annoyed when I cannot download objects/clothes because I only have Base and Uni, but, finally..

This mesh is so beautiful, it's actually inspiring me to get back into the skin-making business. Hopefully I'll have a few outfits by the end of the week. Thank you!

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Forum Resident
#44 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:46 PM
I've always liked this style, too, but I couldn't stand the coloring or the fact that they HAD to be together all of the time- you fixed both in a gorgeous way! THANK YOU!!

Field Researcher
#45 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 6:47 PM
I have always wonder why no one made this yet.

Great job!

Test Subject
#46 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 7:11 PM
fantastic job - you've made my mesh dreams come true!!
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#47 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 8:19 PM
Yay! I think you've finally inspired me to actually start downloading clothes for my sims! (I never download anything other than furniture... heh)

These look splendiforous, and I especially love the burgundy shirt. :D

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Field Researcher
#48 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 8:59 PM
i've been waiting for something like this
now i can have longer shirts that go over pants AND have the edges not so straight lol
thanx and bravo
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