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Alpha-Editable Dress Top - UPDATED Sept. 24, 2006

by HystericalParoxysm Posted 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:59 AM - Updated 23rd Jul 2009 at 1:09 AM by HystericalParoxysm
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This is a new mesh, and means that it's a brand new self contained object that usually does not require a specific Expansion pack (although this is possible depending on the type). It may have Recolours hosted on MTS - check below the description for more information.
This is a featured upload! It showcases the best talent and creativity available on MTS and in the community.
Updated Sept. 24, 2006! Please redownload mesh!: At Renatus Valentinus's suggestion, I have changed the fat morph on the mesh to make it work with a much wider range of outfits. Please redownload the mesh file - the mesh filename is the same so if you copy it to the same place you can just overwrite the previous file. Please make sure you overwrite or remove the original mesh file.

After trying several alternate methods, it appears I've come up with a solution to the crashing dress tops dillemma - and in doing so, made alpha-editable ones! Huzzah!

This mesh is shaped the same as the OfB dress top outfit with the baggy pants (as I always liked it) and as you can see in the Burgundy Foliate recolour, you can make it look pretty much exactly like the OfB top. It can be worn with any bottoms, but works best with ones with a very close-fitting waistline. Other meshes will clip slightly through the waist, especially when sitting or twisting. This is unavoidable due to the geometry of the mesh - if I corrected for it any more it wouldn't retain the same shape as the original OfB top, which is what I wanted. Just wear a close-fitting garment for bottoms.

As a side-effect of how the mesh was created to make it a dress top, the bottom is fully alpha-editable. As it is shaped like the OfB dress top, it does have a lower limit and a bit of a ruffle at the very bottom (as well as an optional "modesty cap" covering the bottom hole, since that was a feature of the original), but as you can see from my recolours, you can get pretty versatile with it.

To recolour, simply use the same alpha and texture for all three sets of textures/alphas. Unfortunately it will duplicate all the textures despite them being the same: you can fix this by deleting the alpha5 and alpha7 images from the recolour file, then copying the value under "stdMatBaseTextureName" from the material definition for the top into the same spot in the alpha5 and alpha7 material definitions. Not absolutely necessary, but makes for much smaller recolour files.

I have tested a couple of the things that were a problem with the other dress tops, namely buying a community lot and getting a job, and there are no crashes or other issues with that. However, as I do not play much, other problems may arise (though I don't expect so as these are essentially a straight clone from Maxis original), therefore I am considering these in testing for the moment. I did get some weird blurring of thumbnails and textures happening while I was testing, but further testing did not repeat it (and it has been alpha tested by someone other than me), so I believe it was due to something else... If you do somehow get the blurring too, I did fix it in my game and can tell you how to do so. Please let me know if you get any issues!

The poly count is a bit on the high side for just a top, 1776 polys, 1205 vertices. This is due to the double-sidedness for the alpha-editability, but it's not -incredibly- high.

It does include a fat morph, but not pregnant (as maternity wear is full-body).

I have put up each of the recolours separately, or in a 4-pack if you want all of them: whichever way you get them, make sure you download the mesh, which I've uploaded separately (filename starts with CMESH)!!

Thanks to:
  • Tiggerypum, for being a great source of info and ideas into how to fix the dress top dillema.
  • Wes_h, for the Unimesh plugins for Milkshape, used in the creation of this mesh.
  • Dr Pixel, for all kinds of various bits of useful meshing info that have helped me along the way.
  • Everyone who has contributed to the creation and development of SimPE.
  • The Inspiration Gallery, for the texture used on the burgundy foliate recolour.
  • Flyingpigeon, for the original dress top idea, and for making me a nice feather pillow with his last molting.
  • MTS2, the rest of the staff, and Delphy, for creating a such a fantastic place to learn and share information, so I could figure out how to do cool stuff like this.
Tags: #dress, #top, #alpha

Age: Adult
Gender: Female
Clothing Type: Everyday
Clothing Style: No Style Modern
Other Type: Not Applicable
Maxis Flags: Not Applicable
Outfit Type: Top

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
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Size: 90.5 KB · Downloads: 123,021 · 25th Sep 2006
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Size: 934.2 KB · Downloads: 69,842 · 3rd Sep 2006
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Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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#51 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:31 PM
Yay! Thankies, 5 stars from me!
#52 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:42 PM
Great job Hp you are amazing!!!!!

Thnaks for this amazing mesh i will have fun with this!

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Test Subject
#53 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 9:51 PM
Love it love it love it. Thank you!!!
Lab Assistant
#54 Old 3rd Sep 2006 at 10:24 PM
Thanks so much for this! I had to delete the other because of the problems but I really liked it so I am so glad to see that you have fixed it and made it even better! Thanks for all of your hard work!

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#55 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 12:44 AM
Really awesome HP. Thanks for your work!

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Lab Assistant
#56 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 1:12 AM
Thanks! And I might I say I love, love, LOVE! your avatar.
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#57 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 5:57 AM
The tops are absolutely lovely HP!

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Field Researcher
#58 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 6:02 AM
Great work! Not only did you solve the crashing problem, but you did it with my favorite top! Thanks big bunches!!
Lab Assistant
#59 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 6:07 AM
Awesome! I love these, they're so cute! Thanks

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Test Subject
#60 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:14 AM
I like this but would like one without the "modisty cap" all this censorship bug me LOL
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#61 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:17 AM
You don't HAVE to have the "modesty cap" on any recolours, tastyted1. It gets removed with the alpha. All of the recolours I've done except the burgundy one have no "modesty cap." I only included it because it was part of the original OfB top that I wanted to convert to a dress top. Black out that part of the alpha and it'll be gone.

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#62 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:35 AM
YAY! No crashing and I get to see a fan-damn-tastic gothy-liscious top again!! Thank you thank you thank you!!

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Test Subject
#63 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:41 AM
Fabulous! Its great to see longer tops, that don't show midriff and that are still stylish! great job! One question though. Is this a full outfit mesh? (pants, etc?) & if so, what kind of shoes come with it? Im really hoping they are flat. I've been looking for a long shirt, jeans, and flat shoes for ages. All these high heels are getting on my nerves. :/ But yes~! Please send me a message~!

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#64 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 9:28 AM
Amazing work! Thank you

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Field Researcher
#65 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 9:59 AM
I don't think I've ever had a problem with the old dress tops, but I shall get these anyway.
Oh yeah, and you mentioned in your original post about having problems with blurring ingame.. I've had this and I'd appreciate it if you could tell me what you did.
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#66 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 10:06 AM
zombie, it's a top only, not a full-body outfit. You put whatever separate bottoms you want with it. Some will clip through and not look right, but if you put like, tights or tight jeans underneath (I really like the SIMply Elau barefoot jeans mesh for this) it looks fine. If you look REAL close at the front of the goth lolita dress, right where the plaid starts for the skirt beneath the black shirt, you can see some little horizontal black marks on the plaid. That's the pants (OfB flared slacks with shiny formalish pointy shoes) underneath clipping through a bit.

conage, the blurring I was getting was some weird random blurring/crunchiness with thumbnails and mirrors, that intensified through my testing of several items including this dress top (which was having its own blurring problem on the bottom, which is why I include the warning - I don't think they were related because that's not what my further testing to try to fix it suggested but I thought I'd mention it just in case). Eventually it was so if I loaded a lot, everything was fine, but as soon as I moved the camera, the whole lot would blur VERY badly. I eventually took out my whole My Documents/EA Games/The Sims 2 folder, and put back only my Downloads and Neighborhoods, and that fixed everything but the taxi for me - which fixed itself after a few days, and now everything's back to normal. I don't know why I was getting that blurring, and I've talked to other people who had similar issues before my dress tops were even created, let alone in their games for testing, so I really don't think it had anything to do with this, really. Try what I described above that worked for me (though my problem's root cause, and therefore its fix, may be different from yours - I don't know what caused mine), and try the Game Help forum.

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Lab Assistant
#67 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 2:24 PM
you're a treasure for us HP! I was really sorry when I saw the game crashes with flying version :the concept is so great...
I like this new shape too
thank you for sharing !
Test Subject
#68 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:01 PM
umm....ahh..... what does it do? i can't get those alpha editable mesh stuff... can't understand english enaught... explain!

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#69 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 8:31 PM
Thanks for the very long reply, but that's not the problem I was having.. Oh well.
Oh, and when I played in game earlier, I noticed that there was a sort of flare at the bottom, which is very nice.
Lab Assistant
#70 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 9:50 PM
I love this mesh and want you to know that it is highly appreciated. I am looking forward to your future creations.
Lab Assistant
#71 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 10:22 PM
wicked!!! ^O^
my girl sims will love this xD

Lab Assistant
#72 Old 4th Sep 2006 at 10:36 PM
Wow these are really nice!
Just one problem - whenever I download them they won't show up in game. I moved all the files into the Downloads folder (and I've checked everywhere in BodyShop) but I still can't find them. Am I doing something wrong?

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Test Subject
#73 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 1:33 AM
oh my goodness! i just realized something. the only reason i clicked on this is because i thought it said "edible!" ha! i was thinking weird, ok, that could make woo hoo more interesting. it took me, like 5 minutes to read EDITable! ....yeah, i'm a bit of a dork.
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#74 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 4:12 AM
povilas_god - Alpha-editable means that someone can change the shape of the bottom part of the mesh, below the waist, by editing the some of the images when they go to recolour it. Normally meshes are stuck with one shape, whatever the 3d model is shaped like, but I've set this mesh up so you can can set the bottom part of the skirt to many different shapes, as you can see by my recolours - see how the bottom is different on each one? The burgundy one is the maximum length of the mesh, and shows the full shape of it.

amzy829 - Make sure you have the mesh (filename starts with CMESH) and at least one of my recolour files in your Downloads folder. If you don't, it's not going to show up. If you're sure you have the files in the right place, see the Game Help section and the "all/some/no custom content is showing up" FAQ for more things to try - I don't think there's a problem with my files, as it definitely shows up for other people.

my simblr (sometimes nsfw)

“Dude, suckin’ at something is the first step to being sorta good at something.”
Panquecas, panquecas e mais panquecas.
Lab Assistant
#75 Old 5th Sep 2006 at 4:52 AM
I eventually got it working, I guess my computer was having a stubborn day!
Thanks for making this! I was wanting an alpha-editable top for a long time, and now it's been made! I'm so happy!

"One day men will look back and say I gave birth to the Twentieth Century" - Jack the Ripper
"I don't wanna sound like a queer or nothin', but I think unicorns are kick-ass!" Dave the Lighting Guy, Orgazmo
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