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Neighborhood decorations can be placed anywhere.

by saramkirk Posted 27th Dec 2007 at 1:14 AM - Updated 30th Jan 2008 at 8:30 AM by saramkirk
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What It Is

It's a hack that allows all neighborhood deco to go inside lots, go on top of roads, go on land, and go on water.

For example, the palm tree groves that came with BV refuse to go on the edge of water, screaming at you that they can only be placed on land... even though you are placing them on land. Damn game. And the lighthouse that's on a rock used to ony be allowed in water, but now can be placed on land, too.

Pretty much all the deco objects are included. All the trees, rocks, buildings, BV objects, signs, etc. The ones that aren't included are things like flowers and fields, which can't be seen from inside of lots anyway, and so are useless anyway.

This REPLACES my "bonus rock hack" that's on MTS2. It does not replace the smaller rocks, so don't remove those. The hack you'll want to delete had the name of smk_Boulders_place_in_lots.package

What To Install

There are several files inside the zip. Basically, each EP added some nhood deco. So get the files for all the EPs you've got, as well as the base game. For example, if you have NL and BV only, you would get the base game hack, the NL hack, and the BV hack, but not the OFB or Seasons hacks.

Technical Info

Provided for reference... can be used to edit custom objects.

There are four things that can be changed about the way nhood objects are placed.

All of them are changed in the Neighborhood Object XML (XNGB), which is located inside a file called catcanhobjects.bundle.package in C:\Program Files\EA GAMES\XXX\TSData\Res\Catalog\CANHObjects (where XXX refers to the base game or specific EP). For custom objects, this would be inside the .package file you downloaded, of course.

placementsurface refers to whether an object is allowed on water or land.
Acceptable codes are 0x00000000 (land), 0x00000001 (water), 0x00000002 (water and land).

allowedinlot refers to whether you can place an object inside of a lot.
Acceptable codes are 0x00000000 (no), 0x00000001 (yes).

allowedonroad refers to whether you can place an object on top of a road.
Acceptable codes are 0x00000000 (no), 0x00000001 (yes).

removeonlotplop VERY IMPORTANT!!! If you do not disallow this, the object will NOT be placeable inside of lots or on roads, even if you allowed it in allowedinlot and allowedonroad.
THE CODE YOU SHOULD USE IS 0x00000000. Do not use 0x00000001.

Practical Applications

You might be wondering how all this stuff can be used in the actual game.

Here are some pictures of a beach lot, where the yucky edges/seams have been disguised by rocks, and a community "pond" that is actually a disguised swimming pool. If you have ever tried to disguise a swimming pool using just plants, you know how dumb it looks to have a jungle growing around all four edges of the pool. Using the rocks gives a more natural appearance. Take note of the way the rocks extend INSIDE the swimming pool, giving the underwater sides a natural, rough look. I put this example together too hastily, so not every edge of the pool was concealled; ideally you would make the rocks extend slightly more inside the pool. Invisible fences (available on MTS2) are used to keep sims from walking through any nhood object inside the lot.

You must have the expansion or stuff packs listed below installed to use this custom content. Please see the post text for any exceptions.

Sims 2
Key: - File was updated after upload was posted
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smk_allowedinlots_hack.zip

Size: 9.9 KB · Downloads: 37,654 · 27th Dec 2007
9.9 KB 37,654 27th Dec 2007
Don't forget to Thank the creator after downloading! Use the Thanks button located above the screenshots above.
Basic Download and Install Instructions:

1. Download: Click the download link to save the .rar or .zip file(s) to your computer.

2. Extract the zip, rar, or 7z file.

3. Place in Downloads Folder: Cut and paste the .package file(s) into your Downloads folder:
  • Origin (Ultimate Collection): Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims™ 2 Ultimate Collection\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows Vista/7/8/10: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Non-Origin, Windows XP: Documents and Settings\(Current User Account)\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads\
  • Mac: Users\(Current User Account)\Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\Downloads
  • Mac x64: /Library/Containers/com.aspyr.sims2.appstore/Data/Library/Application Support/Aspyr/The Sims 2/Downloads
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Test Subject
#2 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 1:29 AM
It is soo great. Thx. Tomorrow I'll test it. :*
Instructor
#3 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 3:41 AM
I've been wanting something like this for a long time!!! Thanks a lot, I hope it works. (I let you know if it doesn't )

"The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory. "
Test Subject
#4 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 4:24 AM
Great Idea thank you for sharing.
Alchemist
#5 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 4:34 AM
This is so wonderful.

Update: July 2009-I am back now to make invisible and tranparent recolors again in sims 2. You can pm me if you want your objects to be invisible and transparent from now.
Top Secret Researcher
#6 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 7:38 AM
Wow this is fantastic and to be able to decorate where ever we want and to make it look so amazing.
Thank You
Alchemist
#7 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 10:47 AM
What an improvement again! Thanks,
Test Subject
#8 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 11:41 AM
Great work! But I have one question. How can I unistall it?
I downloaded it and I wanted to remove it after that. But when I deleted the files, I still could place objects on the road :/ Please help!
Instructor
#9 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 12:07 PM
Foczki - Did you have the same problem after shutting off the computer? Hacks that are somehow global hacks don't disappear by simply deleting. TS2 remains active in the computer memory to allow faster loading. It is what we use to call TSR (terminate and stay resident). Most big programs TSR to allow fast reloading. Shut down the computer (no hot start) and the memory will be cleaned for next start.

Saramkirk - Very interesting. I'm wonder if the hood objects would not increase dramatically the processor use. Normally they do if you place far too many decorations on the hood view.
It will be a very good alternative because besides looking dull with forests inside a lot, trees and plants are also heavy objects. If I could place stones of different sizes around pools I could have a perfect paradise with just enough plants to be nice.
Stones in fact are perfect decorations cause they don't have any kind of interaction available. Besides hood objects have to have LOD90 once they are meant to be seen at hood view.

Thanks for the idea. Very welcome.
Test Subject
#10 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 1:36 PM Last edited by Foczki : 27th Dec 2007 at 1:50 PM.
It didnt work ;( Other ideas, how to get to my "normal" game?
Theorist
#11 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 1:57 PM
All I a-whant, For chrismaa-ahaaahaass- Isss-is
This Hack.
Seriosly.
I can't belive it's finially here, I'm so shuffed I can't Think for a 'whowzers man!' sorta post.

Thankyou! Lots.


ZOMG ITS APSOLUTLY AMAZEING! AHHHHHHHH NEEDED IT FOR LIKE EVER!
WHOWWWWWW!
AHAHAHAHAHA I BURSTS MY BRAIN!
etc, etc :D


BodyShopped /// ShoofleedSims
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Test Subject
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Field Researcher
#12 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 9:33 PM
Thankyou so much for this hack, it must be one of the most useful tools for beautiful building/pictures so far.
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#13 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 10:22 PM Last edited by saramkirk : 27th Dec 2007 at 10:28 PM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by xptl297
Saramkirk - Very interesting. I'm wonder if the hood objects would not increase dramatically the processor use. Normally they do if you place far too many decorations on the hood view.
It will be a very good alternative because besides looking dull with forests inside a lot, trees and plants are also heavy objects. If I could place stones of different sizes around pools I could have a perfect paradise with just enough plants to be nice.
Stones in fact are perfect decorations cause they don't have any kind of interaction available. Besides hood objects have to have LOD90 once they are meant to be seen at hood view.


Nhood objects are indeed very low-poly, so they should not cause too much lag from inside the lot. I have never experienced problems from using too many nhood objects, although I have heard that too many trees can cause lag. I think it all comes down to the fact that having lot view enabled does in fact put a strain on the system resources. However, this would be true whether you had houses close to your lot, or nhood objects. Obviously having to render nhood objects causes the system to work harder, as opposed to having lot view completely turned off.

By the way, do you have my smaller nhood stones? http://modthesims2.com/showthread.php?t=169082

I will be posting even smaller stones soon.

geocities.com/saramkirk
Merge Pleasantview, Strangetown, Veronaville. Keep terrains/deco, houses, relationships!
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#14 Old 27th Dec 2007 at 10:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Foczki
It didnt work ;( Other ideas, how to get to my "normal" game?


Delete the file Groups.cache, which can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\ This file can keep copies of global hacks, and continue to use the hacked code even once you have removed the actual hack. That file should be deleted often, and especially after installing or uninstalling hacks.

geocities.com/saramkirk
Merge Pleasantview, Strangetown, Veronaville. Keep terrains/deco, houses, relationships!
Test Subject
#16 Old 28th Dec 2007 at 1:59 PM Last edited by Black Kitten : 28th Dec 2007 at 2:00 PM. Reason: I spelled download wrong. >.<
Oh. I´m SO going to download that! So cool! ^^
Test Subject
#17 Old 28th Dec 2007 at 7:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by saramkirk
Delete the file Groups.cache, which can be found in C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\EA Games\The Sims 2\ This file can keep copies of global hacks, and continue to use the hacked code even once you have removed the actual hack. That file should be deleted often, and especially after installing or uninstalling hacks.

It worked xD Thanks!
I had to unistall the hack, because my sister didn't like it But I love it
Top Secret Researcher
#18 Old 28th Dec 2007 at 8:09 PM
Thank you! I really really appreciate this hack.
Theorist
#19 Old 29th Dec 2007 at 8:43 AM
awesome
Test Subject
#20 Old 31st Dec 2007 at 6:57 PM
Great! Thanks.
Test Subject
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Test Subject
#21 Old 2nd Jan 2008 at 5:47 PM
GoooooooooooooooooD
Yes. i will try this it should be very good. thank you. you may want to do V.2 now seeing all the bugs above.

also this is really good beacuse you can try and make a 'Sims 2 Castaway' story when you don't have castaway.

(damn it cant they have castaway for pc???????)
Lab Assistant
Original Poster
#22 Old 3rd Jan 2008 at 1:03 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimBoy48
Yes. i will try this it should be very good. thank you. you may want to do V.2 now seeing all the bugs above.


What bugs would that be, since you've deleted your other post?

geocities.com/saramkirk
Merge Pleasantview, Strangetown, Veronaville. Keep terrains/deco, houses, relationships!
Field Researcher
#23 Old 4th Jan 2008 at 8:16 PM
Thank you, it works like a charm! Now I need brand new nice hood objects - like mill wings without the mill, lol. BTW stuff like spires, coupols and other bigger deco on houses would also be great to have as hood objects.
Test Subject
#24 Old 6th Jan 2008 at 10:26 PM
Now this is definatly worth having.I am always trying to make pools and ponds,ect.look more realistic.I don't particularly like straight edges.Thank you so much.
I am realy excited about this.Now all i need is a better video card.I get so jelous when i see some of the peoples pools like look so real.I mean mine are pretty but they don't look real,but i think my husband is going to get a new computer when we get our taxes back and then i get his .His even though not new looks alot better then mine
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